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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jul 18, 2007 1:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: 1966

So rarely discussed here, 1966 is a year that certainly deserves more attention.

Its all too easy to dismiss these early recordings as rustic, unpolished, and primitive. While the primal '66 Dead may sound like a "Garage Band", there is no mistaking the phenomenal sound quality of most of these recordings. All of the band members are still honing their chops, but the fast and loose playing, featuring Garcias wild Bluegrass picking, lead to some very compelling blues jams that hint at the future magic to come!

Cliffs top ten of 1966...

2/25/66 Ivar Theatre - LA

"This is a top three of this whole site. What an incredible petri dish they are experimenting with it's like going back to the garden of eden and seeing how life was created"
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She's On The Road Again, Next Time You See Me, I Know You Rider, Hey Little One, Cold Rain & Snow, King Bee, Caution, Stealin', Schoolgirl -> You Dont Love Me -> Schoolgirl

Source: SB (unknown)
Sound: A+
Score: 99 pts

Notes: Phenomenal show with unsurpassed sound quality! Pig shines throughout!

3/12/66 Danish Center - LA (Pico Acid Test)

Viola Lee Blues, One Kind Favor, I Know You Rider, You See A Broken Broken Heart, It's A Sin, Beat It On Down The Line, Heads Up (Instrumental), Next Time You See Me, Ice Cream Break, Stormy Monday Jam, Death Don't Have No Mercy, In The Midnite Hour

Source: SB (unknown)
Sound: A-/A (hiss)
Score: 95 pts

Notes: Naturally its very trippy. Slow & melting Violas goes on and on. Heads Up is a very cool & zippy surf instrumental. Dont miss the long, smokey unnamed blues jam late in the set!

3/25/66 Troupers Hall - LA

"If the entire band had gone over Devil's Slide after this performance, their place in the history books would still be ensured based solely on their rendition of Orbison's "Hey Little One" at this show."
Chris U

Stealin, Jam, Hey Little One, Hog For You Baby, You Don't Have To Ask, Cold Rain & Snow, Next Time You See Me

Source: SB (unknown)
Sound: A
Score: 98 pts

Notes: Superb Jer/Pig jam followed by an incredible Hey Little One.

5/19/66 Avalon - SF

Beat It On Down The Line, Standing On The Corner, Mindbender, It Hurts Me Too, Viola Lee Blues, I Know You Rider, It's A Sin, Sick And Tired, Cream Puff War Sittin' On Top Of The World, Minglewood Blues, Cold Rain And Snow, Come Back Baby, Silver Threads And Golden Needles, It's All Over Now Baby Blue, Good Lovin' , You Don't Have To Ask

Source: SB (lestkatt)
Sound: B+/A-
Score: 96 pts

Notes: Two shows, both important with lots of new material that would comprise their first LP. First Cream Puff, Mindbender, Minglewood, etc. Tastebud!

7/3/66 Fillmore W - SF

Dancin' In The Street, I Know You Rider, He Was A Friend Of Mine, Next Time You See Me, Viola Lee Blues, Big Boss Man, Sittin' On Top Of The World

Source: (unknown)
Sound: A
Score: 96 pts

Notes: Very tight show! Nice versions of Dancin', He Was a Friend. Excellent Jer solo in Violas!

7/16/66 Fillmore W - SF

Violas, Dont Ease, Pain In My Heart, Minglewood, Sitting On Top of the World, You Dont Have to Ask, Cold Rain & Snow, Schoolgirl, Baby Blue

Source: SB (serafin)
Sound: A/A+
Score: 98 pts

Notes: Superb sound! Excellent Violas, Schoolgirl, etc.

7/29/66 PNE Garden Auditorium - Vancouver

Standing On The Corner, Rider, Next Time, SOTOTW, Don't Have To Ask, Big Boss Man, Stealin', Cardboard Cowboy, Baby Blue, Cream Puff War; Viola Lee Blues

Source: SB (Vernon)
Sound: A
Score: 97 pts

Notes: Cardboard Cowboy is cool, Cream Puff is very drippy and sounds like Country Joe & Fish, superb Violas.

11/19/66 Fillmore W - SF

"Balls to the wall - break out your beanie and dark glasses, crank up the poppers and check out this crazy scene daddy-o..."
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Hi-Heel Sneakers, Pain In My Heart, Cold Rain & Snow, Beat It On Down The Line, Cream Puff War, The Same Thing, He Was A Friend Of Mine, Dancin' In The Streets Smokestack Lightning-> I'm A King Bee, Midnight Hour

Source: SB (Seff)
Sound: A-/A
Score: 98 pts

Notes: Amazing Cream Puff doesnt quit! Smokestack, King Bee, Midnight Hour.

11/29/66 Matrix - SF

Me & My Uncle, The Same Thing, Stealin, Big Boy Pete, One Kind Favor, Early Morning Rain, Cold Rain & Snow, Viola Lee Blues Down So Long, There's Something On Your Mind, Lindy, Good Morning Little School Girl, I Just Want To Make Love To You

Source: (ret)
Sound: B+/A-
Score: 96 pts

Notes: Tracks 1-8 are 5/19? Big Boy Pete, Early Morning Rain, Great Violas, Lindy.

12/1/66 Matrix - SF

Minglewood Blues, Betty & Dupree, Next Time You See Me, I Know You Rider, Big Boss Man, One Kind Favor, Alice D. Millionaire, Me & My Uncle, Cream Puff War You Don't Love Me, Beat It On Down The Line, It Hurts Me Too, On The Road Again, Look Over Yonder's Wall, My Own Fault, Down So Long, Cold Rain & Snow, Viola Lee Blues Deep Elem Blues, There's Something On Your Mind, Big Boy Pete, Death Don't Have No Mercy, Lindy, Dancin' In The Streets, Me & My Uncle

Source: SB (sirmick)
Sound: B+/A-
Score: 97+ pts

Notes: Too many highlights to name. Amazing & trippy Cream Puff (Jer cant stop). Huge Violas!

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Poster: DEADBUCK Date: Jul 18, 2007 2:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1966

agree especially with the 7/16 7/17 shows...Bias aside because they are bday shows for me..they sound pissa and I just stuffed em in my car cd machine today to visit a great time!

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Poster: barongsong Date: Jul 18, 2007 11:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1966

Thanks Cliff for this very informative list. It definatly helps with prioritizing my 66 downloads. Just one question though. Was Mindbender a Warlocks song? I kinda remember hearing it on some weird studio recorded tape of them. If so I was kinda curious whether there were any other Warlocks songs that carried over. Cheers

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jul 19, 2007 2:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1966

"Mindbender" - maybe a nerdy retitling of "Confusion's Prince"
... early Grateful Dead or very late Warlocks - who knows for sure?
It's one of the late '65 Autumn demos they sometimes played live in 1966.

1966 forever!

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jul 19, 2007 2:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1966

So Cream Puff, which is the very best Cream Puff War?


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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jul 19, 2007 11:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1966

wait a minute!

there's the stereo 1966-10-07 CPW that rocks out...

and there's the March 18, 1967 one, too...

and then the July 1, 1966 version that's overlooked

+ one that's really overlooked is the hidden track on 1966 rare Cuts & Oddities, after a 8:35 live version of Caution, Phil Lesh says stuff, then Bill Graham says goodnight to Pigpen and from 9:15 to 10:20 silence.
Then boom, a great studio outtake of Cream Puff War kicks in for at least 40 seconds before the band stops playing after Jerry misses a few words or whatever.

I'll have to get back to ya on this cause I like em all, ever since I heard the 1st LP...
& dig the uncut, expanded version of CPW on the Rhino cd! of the 1st LP.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jul 20, 2007 4:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1966

look man, I'll tell ya, I don't know anything about this 1987 or 1978 whatever, I came to the Fillmore West, a young kid, who loved music, I just loved the stuff that went ...

and Cream Puff War, eventually I realized, that went!

So that's why I picked my handle.

Garcia could tear that guitar into a thousand notes, whoah.

Pure energy.

I don't want to know about uh uh, half asleep stuff.
That's just me - and maybe Cliff.
No offense folks - The GD were great musicians, ok. No time barriers.

Just gimmee that blam, and I'm sailin'. Razor's edge, one toke, either way...

it's the music.

Hiss, wow and flutter, oh well, as long as it takes off, yeah!

This message will self destruct in 5 eons.

Goood luck Jim.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jul 18, 2007 7:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1966-02-06

It's always 1966.

gotta include 2 of the taper's section surprises, previously unreleased - and real good.

If you go to the taper's section,
search for mindbender, and or, here's the page (not song) link with the version:

plus my comment there on why I like it.

Mindbender, from Feb 2, 1966.

Great Great Society-tinged lead break!

Then there's the rare Cream Puff War David kindly uploaded for your download pleasure, you freeloaders ya!

(I actually paid to download the 1966 Rare Cuts and Oddities aalbum from the official GD site 2 years or so ago, feeling sympathetic towards Owsley who found the long lost reels in an old do-nut open box from a rent-a-car trunk marked, Hertz, Dough-nut)
Now that page with the early '66 Cream Puff featuring additional lyrics is at:

And the other rare GD tune from '66 I really like is
"Keep Rolling By" -
it's on Birth of the Dead and the Golden Road (recluses can try Limewire if you're dead broke but save some pennies for the Rex Foundation asap, nothin's free!)

PS anyone, does this work?

Here, try this high bit rate virus-free wma - close the download and it will start up automatically in Windows Media - at least see if it will play for you - I came up with the A-side song title for Cyril and the band, Tomorrow Never Comes (duh!)

The b-side, Run And Hide is even better imho, this one featuring the in-the-moment/experience-rich dulcet tones of Cyril Jordan (lead gtr.) along with Paulie the usual lead singer.

The Flamin' Groovies' Cyril J. was an old friend (or rather, a young friend) of Ron "Pigpen" McKernan from '66.

Ron used to share his wine bottle at the Fillmore/Avalon with Master Cyril before the crowds
(as many as 50-110 hipsters) showed up - everybody knew everybody was cool in '66... (not one Cosmic Charlie Manson at all!)

Breaking news: Meet the latest Magic Christian, world-class replacement for M.C. drummer Prairie Prince -

Blondie drummer Clem Burke!!

Also getting in on the act is one of the main men from The Plimsouls...
this is beginning to sound like a super-group!

M.C. rehearsed this June '07 in L.A. and everybody's happy nowadays!
so this is the long-suffering acid-jughead cult faves the Flamin' Groovies, legendary founder Cyril Jordan's cool new '60s-tinged Magic Christian (named after the Ringo Badfinger Peter Sellers movie, based on the the Terry Southern book).


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